Andrieh Vitimus and Zachary Lui are no strangers to the world of magick. As experienced practitioners, they have seen firsthand the ebbs and flows that come with the territory. In their conversation, they explore their own experiences with magick, delving into the subject with humor and insight. Both Andrieh and Zachary have a wealth of knowledge to share, and their conversation is sure to be illuminating for anyone interested in the practice of magick.